LDN *CODE STORM* 09
Calling all hackers, coders, brainstormers, day-dreamers and marketers (yes even you) - and anyone else that has anything to do with Luminis. I'm sponsoring an LDN Code Storm (tm) (registered tm pending) (patent pending) (copyright LDN 2009) (don't think of using this ever). I got the idea from a Sakai conference agenda here. They hosted a Hackathon in which developers come up with ideas to further the product, get together multiple times during the conference and build out some tool or enhance some functionality.
I'm proposing that LDN do something similar - for three reasons.
- One is that I think it would be a good thing to round up some ideas and nail out some cool channel or extended functionality for Luminis.
- Two - LDN is a great site for questions and answers, but it seems we haven't pushed Luminis lately with new functionality.
- Three - I'm organizing the Luminis track for PA Bug (our regional Banner User's Group) and I think this would facilitate a great session - or sessions.
This could EASILY become a huge collaboration project and you all can take these ideas to your local / regional conferences - even the same idea, same code, etc. Can you imagine mobilizing all of our efforts on a couple kickin' projects ? Like focusing the sun on an ant. Wait, that's destructive, but you know what I mean.
I know for a fact on this site we have great idea people, we have CIOs, CEOs, Marketing types, JAVA, PHP, PERL, ASP, .Net, C, and ____ (fill in the blank) coders. If we as a community focus our efforts - we can probably push out some great coordinated applications / channels / extensions / hacks.
I have a couple ideas to start off -
- Portal Search
- Web 2.0 Announcements - reading / rendering
- Extend to handle pages of content instead of small channels (more Intranet-like)
- New admin interface
- post some new ideas below and I'll culminate them and see what seems feesable
So - I'm officially announcing LDN Code Storm (tm) 2009
Bring it on.
-Jon
Wow
This sounds exciting! Your projects are project ideas that we have tossed around. It would be nice to have a coordinated effort on some of these. "Many eyes make all bugs shallow" - Linus
Some ideas (a few more extreme than others):
Search!
Search is the BIGGEST thing here - our marketing/PR department mentions search weekly. We would definitely be interested in participating in anything that can bring that to fruition.
Great idea!
I love the idea. I am going
I love the idea. I am going to keep up with this and see where I can put in my two cents.
Targeted announcements, anyone?
How about a new TA channel that actually works AND is usable by non-techies?
TA submission for Code Storm
Not sure which TA channel you are speaking of. If it is the reading channel I had sometime back put into the SVN here at LDN my code that can be used (if wanted) as a base for further customisations. (See http://www.lumdev.net/node/2770)
If you are meaning more from the administrative end, I am in favour of this as well. I just don't have anything to share yet :)
Administrative end...
Hi Bill,
I'm quite aware of your Feedback Reader channel - and I'm not really sure why we didn't implement it.
But, we're on the IV platform now, and the changes that Sungard has introduced into the whole TA infrastructure to support FGAC makes the whole system largely unusable.
Our MarComm director, who was using TAs in III very successfully to target messages to specific groups, is now ready to find a replacement for Luminis. Her [paraphrased] comment is "I thought upgrades are supposed to make things better!"
If you haven't seen the IV product, give me a shout. I'll see if I can get you a dog'n'pony show.
m
Best to read the post I pointed you to
You should read the post I pointed to you again. The version in that post does work with Luminis IV and to the best of my testing when reworking it, it does handle the FGAC concepts. The installation instructions have a subtle difference for either Luminis III or Luminis IV clients.
For instance there are two different pieces of SQL code you need to run depending on your version of Luminis (one for Luminis III and one for Luminis IV).
There is also two versions of a supplemental java library that you need to put in based on your version of Luminis.
If after trying out this version you still find a deficency just add a comment to the other post so that I can see what we can do about that (we really need a bug tracking software I think).
Rolled our own
Michael,
I feel for your MarComm director. The screens (and the process) for composing targeted announcements in Luminis 4 were so bad that we created our own application for creating targeted announcements outside of Luminis, and then have that system inject them into Luminis using the TA-SDK. We've been using it in production since June 2009 and it's mostly stable; a few more weeks and a few more bug fixes later, and we hope to have something rock solid.
If you're attending CBUC 2009 in Winnipeg, I can give you a live demo. Even over beer, if we can find a bar with Wi-Fi!!
If you're not attending....well, then I'm just sad. You should talk to your manager and convince them that it would be worth it for them to send you, just to see this. :P
We're going to look at moving over to Bill's announcement channel later this term.
Todd
Feedback, anyone?
How about a configurable feedback channel that will:
m
Feedback submission
This post is a little old as we have revamped the feedback channel recently and have switched to a more Web 2.0 style of interaction using Flex for the front end. That being said we could use the code currently posted (or wait until I post the revised code) (see www.lumdev.net/node/856) as a base for this work.
It does have categorization, but does not currently send to different people based on that categorization. Though this could easily be expanded.
Soon our efforts here for going to IV and revamping our channels will be kicking into high gear so once I clean the new code base up a bit I will place it into the SVN respoitory as well.
I can wait for IV
I can wait for the IV version...
m
Does anyone feel like Sungard
Does anyone feel like Sungard should help pay / sponsor this since we are enhancing their Portal? Just kidding I guess...
I want to start a new topic on the Search component, to avoid clutter here, but I have some design questions on which I would like to get input
Storm and Version
For a long time I thought it would be great if a bunch of us on LumDev could create a standard add on distribution that would add oft-missed functionality to Luminis. This would basically be plug and play and add a lot of web 2.0 features to default portal installations. (Jon and I talked about this idea briefly at Summit several years back).
What version of Luminis would Storm development be for? Would this be targeting IV.2?
Brian
Sorm IV
I'm guessing IV - its only a matter of time before Sundard de-supports III.
which sucks because my porduction portal is still III.3.3.x - so anything we do - I can't even use ! <G>
I imagine we could try to make things backward compatible - depending on what we create, or develop for IV and then take a look and convert for III if there's a demand (and I want to use it)
floating channels
I'd like to see a break away from the whole column design of the layout, and more of a floating channel idea. This way you could put channels anywhere on the page you want, regardless of the other channels around it. Even being able to stack them on top of each other or tile them. You could still have an initial layout that puts them in a certain order and rows, so that the user would have the option to revert back to a simple layout.
Wow!
A most excellent idea Jon and good timing. At this past submit I submitted a presentation idea along to our national conference (CBUC) of much the same idea. If any of you out there are able to come on up my University is hosting the conference this year and we would very much like you to join us. https://umanitoba.ca/outreach/conferences/cbuc2009/index.php )sorry for the plug).
I'm assuming with Code Strom we could make use of the LDN SVN repository to collabritatively work on code together?
Also, what would you think about setting something like this up http://www.dotproject.net/ Jon? This way ideas that are generated via Code Strom could have project plans built around them to help organise who is invovled.
jQuery
We have a new IA for our future LUM4 install, and I'm going to look at writimg and re-writing the whole Luminis JavaScript Lib in jQuery. It's going to involve drag and drop and all the other things that we could dream up. I'll realease what I have and the packing scripts when I have something to show.
Love the idea
This is an exciting idea Jon, getting some good minds on some good projects that could lead to some great new options for our respective Portals. I'm on board, as with most, on a Portal Search function, as well as new ways to give the Portal more of a true Web 2.0 feel.
Glad to hear about the Luminis track at PABUG, onward to Grantville....